Second Tier - The Championship Football Podcast
Second Tier
A podcast dedicated to the EFL Championship. Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach bring you three episodes every week with opinions and news from the second tier of English football. Whether it’s the latest on the next Jude Bellingham, Michael Olise or fresh managerial drama, we’ve got you covered with all the fascinating storylines from the most entertaining league in the world! Second Tier is the UK's No.1 podcast dedicated to the EFL Championship. Subscribe for new podcasts every Thursday, Friday and Sunday throughout the football season.
A podcast dedicated to the EFL Championship. Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach bring you three episodes every week with opinions and news from the second tier of English football. Whether it’s the latest on the next Jude Bellingham, Michael Olise or fresh managerial drama, we’ve got you covered with all the fascinating storylines from the most entertaining league in the world! Second Tier is the UK's No.1 podcast dedicated to the EFL Championship. Subscribe for new podcasts every Thursday, Friday and Sunday throughout the football season.
West Ham SACK Nuno Espirito Santo and Scott Parker is BACK
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Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach react to the sacking of Nuno Espirito Santo and his West Ham sacking. Plus, our reaction to the news that Scott Parker could be brought in to replace him. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach go through ALL the action from gameweek 13 in the Championship. West Brom hammer West Ham in London! Millwall pile the pressure on Derby and John Eustace! Middlesbrough win again the sicko's! Swansea back to breaking arms! New Burnley manager booed on his birthday. Download the FREE Fanalysis app right now and get involved in the conversation today: https://go.fanalysis.com/F7x6/w206xfi2 #Championship #SecondTier #EFL #SecondTierPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach look ahead to the latest gameweek in the Championship! Philippe Clement under pressure ahead of Watford! Should Wrexham have been deducted points?! Charlton up against it at Middlesbrough! Derby call in more Blackburn reinforcements! It's the Second Tier. #Championship #SecondTier #EFL #SecondTierPodcast BOYLE Sports: Bet £10 Get £30 in Free Bets + 25% Bet Builder Boost when you pick West Ham vs. West Brom! Access the offer here Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Rob Edwards turns down Burnley, again and which players have stood out so far? Synopsis: Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach delve into the latest Burnley news and who has been the best player in the each position! Rob Edwards says no to Burnley… again! Who will be the next Championship player to win the Ballon d’Or?! Which player has stood out in each position? It’s the Second Tier. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach get stuck into an action-packed weekend of Championship, which includes: Nicky Huyen says bye-n to Burnley! QPR hammer Swansea! Boro batter Bolton! Justin REALLY hates cabbage. It's the Second Tier. Download the FREE Fanalysis app right now and get involved in the conversation today. Access here Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach preview the latest round of Championship action with a HOT game at the London Stadium to look at. Will Southampton rise to the occasion? Can Birmingham continue their away excellence? Swansea not the favourites?! Lucas to become a referee! It's the Second Tier. BOYLE Sports: Bet £10 Get £30 in Free Bets + 25% Bet Builder Boost when you pick West Ham vs Southampton. Access the offer here: https://ads.boylesports.com/redirect.aspx?pid=56351&bid=8832 18+, Ts and C’s apply, please gamble responsibly. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach review the only game played in midweek between Wolves and Portsmouth! Plus, who is the best foreign striker to play in the Championship? And which teams are we REALLY worried about?! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach discuss the latest round of Championship games! West Ham beat the Swans! Birmingham can’t stop winning! Stoke are flying! Preston misery! Justin makes a friend. It’s the Second Tier. Download the FREE Fanalysis app right now and get involved in the conversation today: https://go.fanalysis.com/F7x6/w206xfi2 #Championship #SecondTier #EFL #SecondTierPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach discuss a tasty set of Championship fixtures coming up! Swansea and West Ham battle for top spot! Millwall to pile more misery on Lincoln! Boro to win.. again And a sad sad situation for Watford. It's the Second Tier. BOYLE Sports: Bet £10 Get £30 in Free Bets + 25% Bet Builder Boost when you pick Swansea vs. West Ham. Access the offer here: https://ads.boylesports.com/redirect.aspx?pid=56351&bid=8813 18+, Ts and C’s apply, please gamble responsibly. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach take you through another crazy set of midweek fixtures! QPR hammer Derby! West Ham hammer Lincoln away! Boro are actually quite good! Ronald haunts Millwall. It's the Second Tier. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach are back discussing the latest round of action after a long international break. Children are booed in the South Coast derby! Boro can't stop winning! Burnley show up! Birmingham are Karens. It's the Second Tier. Download the FREE Fanalysis app right now and get involved in the conversation today https://go.fanalysis.com/F7x6/w206xfi2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach sink their teeth into the Championship after a LONG international break. A South Coast derby! Can Swansea carry on their form?! Will Boro succumb to the Wolves?! Lucas sympathises with spies. It’s the Second Tier. BOYLE Sports: Bet £10 Get £30 in Free Bets + 50% Bet Builder Boost when you pick West Ham vs QPR Access the offer here: https://ads.boylesports.com/redirect.aspx?pid=56351&bid=7625 18+, Ts and C’s apply, please gamble responsibly. #Championship #SecondTier #EFL #SecondTierPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach discuss the latest Championship news after the international break! Tonda Eckert gets away with it! Krystian Bielik gets away with it! Three weeks is too long! WE dish out some awards already. It's the Second Tier. Use code ST40 for 40% off your 3 or 6 month plans with Sons. Link: https://sons.co.uk/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach predict who your next manager will be in the Championship. Who do we think should take charge of your club next? An upgrade?! Could do better?! It's the Second Tier. #Championship #SecondTier #EFL #SecondTierPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Lucas Yeomans discuss the latest news in the Championship during the International break! Graham Alexander back in the Championship! Tonda Eckert still in limbo! Man City cheating! Plus what should go on a roast? It’s the Second Tier BOYLE Sports: Bet £10 Get £30 in Free Bets + superboost from Friday at 8pm for England vs Croatia. Access the offer here! https://ads.boylesports.com/redirect.aspx?pid=56351&bid=8600 18+, Ts and C’s apply, please gamble responsibly. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach are back for part two, RANKING every single Championship club and their start to the season! Who gets an A?! Who fails to impress?! It's the Second Tier. BOYLE Sports: Bet £10 Get £40 in Free Bets + 25% Bet Builder Boost - Selected Matches. Access the offer here! 18+, Ts and C’s apply, please gamble responsibly. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach RANK every single Championship club and their start to the season! Who gets an A?! Who fails to impress?! It's the Second Tier. BOYLE Sports: Bet £10 Get £40 in Free Bets + 25% Bet Builder Boost - Selected Matches Access the offer here 18+, Ts and C’s apply, please gamble responsibly. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach discuss the latest updates on Spygate as Tonda Eckert gears up for a verdict on his future! £1.8b up for grabs for the EFL! Will Lankshear to drop off?! Kim Hellberg to get sacked?! Swansea to fall out of promotion contention by February?! We've got Championship hot takes. Wrexham spend and Burnley and Millwall sell BIG | Transfer deadline day review Second Tier - The Championship Football Podcast Second Tier - The Championship Football Podcast 20.3K subscribers Join Analytics Edit video 94 Share 12,540 views Sep 2, 2026 Second Tier Podcast Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach discuss transfer deadline day and all the deals impacting Championship clubs. Wrexham spend big! Burnley lose big! Millwall lose bigger! Derby go back to what they know. It's the Second Tier. #Championship #SecondTier #EFL #SecondTierPodcast Sign up for bonus content and access to the Second Tier Discord ➡️ https://patreon.com/secondtier?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&utm_content=copyLink. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach discuss an action PACKED weekend of Championship football! Swansea keep flying! Millwall and West Ham don’t disappoint! Norwich and Bolton play out a classic! Cardiff finally penetrate! It's the Second Tier. Download the FREE Fanalysis app right now and get involved in the conversation today https://go.fanalysis.com/F7x6/w206xfi2 #Championship #SecondTier #EFL #SecondTierPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach preview the weekend ahead with derby's galore! Millwall take on West Ham! Wolves take on West Brom! Justin curses Stoke! Lucas talks dirty. BOYLE Sports: Bet £10 Get £40 in Free Bets + 50% Bet Builder Boost when you pick West Ham vs Wrexham Access the offer here! #ad Bet builder boost: https://ads.boylesports.com/redirect.aspx?pid=XXXXX&bid=7842 Acca boost: https://ads.boylesports.com/redirect.aspx?pid=XXXXX&bid=8142 18+, Ts and C’s apply, please gamble responsibly. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach take you through some shortened midweek action and some of the news across the Championship! Middlesbrough drop points again! Lincoln win again! What's the latest on spygate?! Which club faces 'financial armageddon'?! It's the Second Tier! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach discuss ALL the action in the Championship this weekend. West Ham get sixy! Boro and Norwich play out the game of the century! Paul Heckingbottom SACKED by Preston! Gavin Bazunu the hero! You'll never see a broomstick the same way again! It's the Second Tier. Download the FREE Fanalysis app right now and get involved in the conversation today https://go.fanalysis.com/F7x6/w206xfi2 #Championship #SecondTier #EFL #SecondTierPodcast Sign up for bonus content and access to the Second Tier Discord ➡️ https://www.patreon.com/secondtier Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach discuss the latest action ahead of gameweek 7 in the Championship. Why is Nathan Jones kicking cats? Can West Brom beat a tight QPR side?! Can Birmingham heap more misery on Derby?! Can Lincoln get their second win of the season?! It's the Second Tier. #Championship #SecondTier #EFL #SecondTierPodcast BOYLE Sports: Bet £10 Get £40 in Free Bets + 50% Bet Builder Boost when you pick West Ham vs Wrexham. Access the offer here! #ad 18+, Ts and C’s apply, please gamble responsibly. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach react to another set of midweek fixtures in the Championship. West Brom hit the summit! West Ham claw their way through another game! Norwich end Birmingham's unbeaten start! What's going on in Cardiff? It's the Second Tier. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach discussed the latest game week action in the Championship! Burnley hit the bottom! Stoke are BACK! Bielik in trouble! Will Lankshear's on fire! It's the Second Tier. Download the FREE Fanalysis app right now and get involved in the conversation today https://go.fanalysis.com/F7x6/w206xfi2 #Championship #SecondTier #EFL #SecondTierPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach discuss preview the latest round of Championship action! Swansea take on Wrexham in the battle for Snowdonia! Justin curses another team! Could the Lincoln Cathedral prove to be a distraction?! Bolton to add to the Millwall woe! How fast can a swan fly? It’s the Second Tier. WE'RE ON PATREON! Sign up for bonus content and access to the Second Tier Discord ➡️ BOYLE Sports: Bet £10 Get £40 in Free Bets + 25% Bet Builder Boost when you pick West Ham vs Derby Access the offer here! #ad https://ads.boylesports.com/redirect.aspx?pid=56160&bid=8355 18+, Ts and C’s apply, please gamble responsibly. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
West Ham hammer Wolves! Swansea turn into.. Swansolona QPR can’t stop! Preston with the biggest games gone! Chris Wilder wins the touchline dash. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach discuss transfer deadline day and all the deals impacting Championship clubs. Wrexham spend big! Burnley lose big! Millwall lose bigger! Derby go back to what they know. It's the Second Tier. #Championship #SecondTier #EFL #SecondTierPodcast Sign up for bonus content and access to the Second Tier Discord ➡️ here Don't miss a video! Subscribe NOW Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Southampton and Norwich dish out thrashings! Golden boot race is live and kicking! Manager’s under pressure already?! Trampoline parks? It’s the Second Tier Download the FREE Fanalysis app right now and get involved in the conversation today https://go.fanalysis.com/F7x6/w206xfi2 #Championship #SecondTier #EFL #SecondTierPodcast Sign up for bonus content and access to the Second Tier Discord ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/channel/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach discuss preview the latest round of Championship action! Wrexham take on Birmingham in the Hollywood Derby! Can Charlton and Millwall make it 3 wins from 3?! More West Ham slander… Don’t touch the seaweed! It’s the Second Tier. WE'RE ON PATREON! Sign up for bonus content and access to the Second Tier Discord ➡️ / / secondtier BOYLE Sports: Bet £10 Get £40 in Free Bets + 25% Bet Builder Boost when you pick Wrexham v Birmingham Access the offer here! #ad 18+, Ts and C’s apply, please gamble responsibly. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach discuss the latest news and transfer updates + which clubs are the most desperate in the final weeks of the transfer window. Will Bristol City get a billionaire investor?! Wrexham spending big for their attack?! Boro born in the USA! Which clubs are desperate for players?! It’s the Second Tier. WE'RE ON PATREON! Sign up for bonus content and access to the Second Tier Discord ➡️ / / secondtier Book your free Sons consultation today at sons.co.uk. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach look back on a weekend full of Championship action! Nathan Jones masterminds win over West Ham! Tony Mowbray stings Middlesbrough! The Price is right for Isaac! Puskas Award winner in Birmingham. It's the Second Tier. Download the FREE Fanalysis app right now and get involved in the conversation today https://go.fanalysis.com/F7x6/w206xfi2 #Championship #SecondTier #EFL #SecondTierPodcast Sign up for bonus content and access to the Second Tier Discord ➡️ / @secondtierpod Don't miss a video! Subscribe NOW: / @secondtierpod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach make their weekend predictions! Can Millwall and Norwich cope with the promotion favourite pressure?! Joel Piroe back in the Championship with West Ham! Vitor Matos Hatewatch. It's the Second Tier. #Championship #SecondTier #EFL #SecondTierPodcast WE'RE ON PATREON! Sign up for bonus content and access to the Second Tier Discord ➡️ / / secondtier BOYLE Sports: £40 in Free Bets + Win 25% More with Bet Builder Boost on West Ham v Charlton. Access the offer here! #ad 18+, Ts and C’s apply, please gamble responsibly. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach discuss the latest news and transfer updates from around the Championship. Will Sheffield United be deducted 12 points?! Is Arne Engels better at operating gates than Ross McCormack?! Watford losing Louza?! Stoke Smit themselves. It's the Second Tier. #Championship #SecondTier #EFL #SecondTierPodcast Sign up for bonus content and access to the Second Tier Discord ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjqVFKB1yw2z_XyVINhB9qA/join Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach react to Cardiff and their late equaliser against Wrexham! What a start, what a finish in the Welsh capital! The drama started on Friday, with the teams from Wales seeing out the opening Championship weekend in style! #Championship #SecondTier #EFL #SecondTierPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach look back on the opening weekend of Championship action! Burnley and West Ham play out a boring high-scoring game! Southampton stung by Watford! Middlesbrough come from behind against Lincoln! HANDBALLS EVERYWHERE! It's the Second Tier. Download the FREE Fanalysis app right now and get involved in the conversation today https://go.fanalysis.com/F7x6/w206xfi2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach begin making their predictions for the new Championship season. Will a slow start cost Burnley and West Ham?! Can Wolves overcome Tony Mowbray's magic?! Can Middlesbrough beat a Championship newcomer?! Why is Justin dribbling? It's the Second Tier. #Championship #SecondTier #EFL #SecondTierPodcast WE'RE ON PATREON! Sign up for bonus content and access to the Second Tier Discord ➡️ / / secondtier BOYLE Sports: Offer: £40 in Free Bets + Win 50% More with Bet Builder Boost on Selected Matches. Access the offer here! #ad Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Derby's takeover collapses! Sheffield United bring in the reinforcements! Wrexham splash the cash! A couple swaps Texas for Wrexham?! It's the Second Tier. #Championship #SecondTier #EFL #SecondTierPodcast WE'RE ON PATREON! Sign up for bonus content and access to the Second Tier Discord ➡️ / / secondtier Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach begin making their predictions for the new Championship season. Who is winning promotion?! Who is winning the league?! It's the Second Tier. Find out now! #Championship #SecondTier #EFL #SecondTierPodcast WE'RE ON PATREON! Sign up for bonus content and access to the Second Tier Discord ➡️ / / secondtier BOYLE Sports: Offer: £40 in Free Bets + Win 50% More with Bet Builder Boost on Selected Matches. Access the offer here! #ad Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach begin making their predictions for the new Championship season. Who’s finishing midtable? Who’s going to be on the beach by April? Who will just miss out on the play-offs?! Find out now! It's the Second Tier. #Championship #SecondTier #EFL #SecondTierPodcast WE'RE ON PATREON! Sign up for bonus content and access to the Second Tier Discord ➡️ / / secondtier BOYLE Sports: Offer: £40 in Free Bets + Win 50% More with Bet Builder Boost on Selected Matches. Access the offer here! #ad Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach begin making their predictions for the new Championship season, discussing 24th to 17th. Who’s going down? Who’s in for a season of struggle? Find out now! It's the Second Tier. #Championship #SecondTier #EFL #SecondTierPodcast *WE'RE ON PATREON!* Sign up for bonus content and access to the Second Tier Discord ➡️ here BOYLE Sports: Offer: £40 in Free Bets + Win 50% More with Bet Builder Boost on Selected Matches. Access the offer here! #ad 18+, Ts and C’s apply, please gamble responsibly. About the Second Tier Podcast: A podcast dedicated to the EFL Championship. Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach bring you three episodes every week with opinions and news from the second tier of English football. Whether it’s the latest on the next Jude Bellingham or fresh managerial drama, we’ve got you covered with all the fascinating storylines from the most entertaining league in the world! Listen to the FULL PODCAST: https://lnk.to/secondtier Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach begin making their predictions for the new Championship season. Top goalscorer! Player of the season! Young player of the season! Biggest over & under-achiever! It's the Second Tier. BOYLE Sports: Offer: £40 in Free Bets + Win 50% More with Bet Builder Boost on Selected Matches Access the offer here! #ad 18+ Ts and C’s apply, please gamble responsibly. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach rank all the managers in the Championship based on how much they would want them in charge of their club.In part two, they reveal the 12 managers they would most want… From 12th, to 1st! #Championship #SecondTier #EFL #SecondTierPodcast Sign up for bonus content and access to the Second Tier Discord ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjqVFKB1yw2z_XyVINhB9qA/join Don't miss a video! Subscribe NOW: https://www.youtube.com/@secondtierpod?sub_confirmation=1 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach rank all the managers in the Championship based on how much they would want them in charge of their club. In part one, they reveal the 12 managers they would least want… From 24th, to 13th! Part Two is out this Sunday! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach discuss the key players for each team ahead of the Championship season. This is part two, covering teams from Portsmouth to Wrexham and every one in between. New signings? Club stalwarts?! Who will be your club's key player? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach discuss the key players for each team ahead of the Championship season. New signings? Club stalwarts?! Who will be your club's key player? #Championship #SecondTier #EFL #SecondTierPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach speak to football finance expert Kieran Maguire to discuss the latest issues across the Championship. Are football clubs just a billionaire's toy? When will the penny drop for Championship clubs' spending? What on earth is SCR?! Are equity firms killing football? #Championship #SecondTier #EFL #SecondTierPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
We talk hot takes! Will a striker score 20 goals?! Will 8th place win promotion?! An Australian in the team of the season?! It's the Second Tier. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach discuss the latest news and transfer updates in the Championship. Danny Dyer drops hints on Jarrod Bowen's West Ham future! Southampton splash the cash! Burnley are getting weaker?! Tim Peake can stick it! It's the Second Tier. #Championship #SecondTier #EFL #SecondTierPodcast Sign up for bonus content and access to the Second Tier Discord ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjqVFKB1yw2z_XyVINhB9qA/join Don't miss a video! Subscribe NOW: https://www.youtube.com/@secondtierpod?sub_confirmation=1 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Lucas Yeomans and Justin Peach discuss which manager will depart their club first. Will they be sacked? Will they resign? Will they get poached? Will whoever pull off the ultimate Ryan Lowe move and leave after 1 game? It's the Second Tier. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
