13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast

Just when we thought we had Taylor Swift's next move figured out, she reminded us that we know absolutely nothing. The Life of a Showgirl: The Encore is officially here with four new songs, and naturally, we have questions. A lot of them. We're talking Patient Zero, Cleveland!, Pink Clouding and Babylon, the completely different Encore aesthetic, that mysterious third page, all the zeros, the Patient Zero music video clues and whether Taylor's masters announcement has secretly been giving us a roadmap this entire time. Then we get into the reaction to the new songs, why Cleveland! has Swifties so divided, and why maybe we all need to stop deciding how we feel about a Taylor Swift song after one listen. Plus, we revisit some suspicious old clues, somehow end up back at Karma, uncover an incredible Colin Farrell and Elizabeth Taylor connection… and one of us has been keeping a VERY big secret. Yeah. You're going to want to stay until the end. What did we miss? What else would you like to hear from us? There’s tons of ways to reach us and we always like to hear from you! Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: station.page/13 Contact the Podcast Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 Email: the13podcast@gmail.com Instagram: @the13podcast TikTok: @the13podcast Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Follow the Hosts Ana – @anaszabo13 Lacey – @laceygee13 Amy – @amysnichols Nick – @heynickadams See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Taylor Swift looked directly into the camera and told us what we’re looking for might be “hiding in plain sight.” So obviously, we handled that information calmly and rationally. Taylor’s surprise Emmy sketch with Mariska Hargitay sent Swifties straight back to the crime board, and somehow almost every theory is back in play. Debut. Reputation. Debutation. Karma. TS13. Even a possible Taylor’s Version documentary, SNL appearance, Sphere connection and more. We’re breaking down the mysterious phrase Taylor delivered herself, the November 10 connection, all those 2s and 13s, Aries, the vineyard, “hiding in plain sight,” and the clues that have us questioning whether Taylor is telling us exactly what comes next… or giving us the greatest red herring of all time. Grab your invisible red string. We have a case to solve. What did we miss? What else would you like to hear from us? There’s tons of ways to reach us and we always like to hear from you! Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: station.page/13 Contact the Podcast Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 Email: the13podcast@gmail.com Instagram: @the13podcast TikTok: @the13podcast Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Follow the Hosts Ana – @anaszabo13 Lacey – @laceygee13 Amy – @amysnichols Nick – @heynickadams See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Taylor Swift may technically only be the featured artist on Renegade, but let’s be honest... this feels like a Taylor Swift song. This week we're finally giving our persistent lovely lobsters what they have been asking for and that’s breaking down Big Red Machine's Renegade featuring Taylor Swift. And the deeper we get into these lyrics, the more brutally honest this song starts to feel. Was Taylor writing fictionally, or could Renegade have revealed something about what she was experiencing in her relationship at the time? We're talking anxiety, emotional baggage, trying to love someone who keeps pushing you away, the genius of “future history,” and that painfully direct question: is something really stopping you from loving me... or do you just not want to? Plus, crustation nation gives us a brilliant idea for a future episode involving where we can go next after The Life of a Showgirl… and our one listener from Ohio calls in on the defense. THIS EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY BETTERHELP Our listeners get 10% off their first month at http://BetterHelp.com/TAYLORSWIFTFAN. What did we miss? What else would you like to hear from us? There’s tons of ways to reach us and we always like to hear from you! Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: station.page/13 Contact the Podcast Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 Email: the13podcast@gmail.com Instagram: @the13podcast TikTok: @the13podcast Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Follow the Hosts Ana – @anaszabo13 Lacey – @laceygee13 Amy – @amysnichols Nick – @heynickadams See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

You only get 13 songs to create your perfect Taylor Swift album. Sounds easy until you actually have to do it. This time, Amy and Lacey are taking on the challenge.. and apparently we had very different interpretations of the assignment. Amy created an entire emotional journey complete with acts, heartbreak, spiraling and healing. A true Female Rage: The Musical! Lacey heard “13 songs” and decided house rules applied, because why choose one Taylor song when you can make an Eras Tour Suprise Songs kind of mashup?! We’re sharing the songs we can never skip, defending some potentially controversial choices and realizing our perfect albums might reveal a little too much about us. Plus, listeners sent in their own versions, including one concept album that may have accidentally given us enough episode ideas to keep this podcast going forever. What 13 songs make your perfect Taylor Swift album? What did we miss? What else would you like to hear from us? There are lots of ways to reach us! 💌 Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: 👉 station.page/13 📲 Contact the Podcast 🎤 Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 📧 Email: the13podcast@gmail.com 📸 Instagram: @the13podcast 🎶 TikTok: @the13podcast 🐦 Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast ▶️ YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast 👯 Follow the Hosts ✨ Ana – @anaszabo13 ✨ Lacey – @laceygee13 ✨ Amy – @amysnichols ✨ Nick – @heynickadams See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Our Showgirl era is coming to an end, which means there’s only one thing left to do… rank it! After nearly a year breaking down every song, every lyric and hopefully alllll the tiny details on The Life of a Showgirl, we’re revealing our final top five songs from the album and comparing them to where we started. Did any songs climb the rankings? Which favorites never moved? And which songs physically hurt us to leave out? We’re also talking about Taylor seemingly exiting her Showgirl era, what we think could be coming next, the songs we still need to break down and a theory involving Taylor’s hair because of course we are. Plus, the lobsters call in with ideas for what we should do next, including one request we might finally have to make happen. Our rankings could absolutely change tomorrow, but for today… these are the final answers. What did we miss? What else would you like to hear from us? There are lots of ways to reach us! Disclaimer: THIS EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY BETTERHELP Our listeners get 10% off their first month at http://BetterHelp.com/TAYLORSWIFTFAN. 💌 Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: 👉 station.page/13 📲 Contact the Podcast 🎤 Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 📧 Email: the13podcast@gmail.com 📸 Instagram: @the13podcast 🎶 TikTok: @the13podcast 🐦 Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast ▶️ YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast 👯 Follow the Hosts ✨ Ana – @anaszabo13 ✨ Lacey – @laceygee13 ✨ Amy – @amysnichols ✨ Nick – @heynickadams See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Taylor Swift has been out and about lately.. And that has us questioning EVERYTHING! The florals. The haircut. THAT exit sign again. The campaigning.. At some point, are we allowed to admit that our Swiftie senses are tingling? We're breaking down the latest theories about TS13, Debut Taylor's Version, a possible October surprise and one theory that brings back up something we all seem to have forgotten about… all of those exit signs! Plus, Taylor has been quietly working behind the scenes with some very important people ahead of Emmy and Grammy season, Travis casually called her his wife and nearly broke us, and we're discussing the very smart way one Swiftie is already preparing financially for Taylor's next tour. Are we getting TS13? Debut? Eras Tour mashups? Another tour? Absolutely nothing? We don't know. But Taylor Swift is up to something, and we're Swiftspecious and on- alert! What did we miss? What else would you like to hear from us? There’s tons of ways to reach us and we always like to hear from you! Disclaimer: THIS EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY BETTERHELP Our listeners get 10% off their first month at http://BetterHelp.com/TAYLORSWIFTFAN. 💌 Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: 👉 station.page/13 📲 Contact the Podcast 🎤 Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 📧 Email: the13podcast@gmail.com 📸 Instagram: @the13podcast 🎶 TikTok: @the13podcast 🐦 Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast ▶️ YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast 👯 Follow the Hosts ✨ Ana – @anaszabo13 ✨ Lacey – @laceygee13 ✨ Amy – @amysnichols ✨ Nick – @heynickadams See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

You get 13 tracks to create the perfect Taylor Swift album. That's it. Choose wisely. This sounded like a fun little assignment until we actually tried to do it and realized it might be one of the hardest things we've ever done on this podcast. Nick created Bangers, an album full of hype songs, a questionable sexy section and some very predictable Nick Adams favorites. Ana took a completely different approach and built an album with an actual storyline that starts in love, crashes spectacularly, gets angry, gets reflective and eventually comes out Clean. But somehow BOTH albums left off one song that might get us kicked out of the Swiftie community. Amy knows all too well how that worked out for her.. And notice that she suspiciously wasn’t on this episode! So now it's your turn. You get 13 Taylor Swift songs from her entire discography. What's making your perfect album? Please let us know! All the ways to contact us are below! What did we miss? What else would you like to hear from us? There’s tons of ways to reach us and we always like to hear from you! Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: station.page/13 Contact the Podcast Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 Email: the13podcast@gmail.com Instagram: @the13podcast TikTok: @the13podcast Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Follow the Hosts Ana – @anaszabo13 Lacey – @laceygee13 Amy – @amysnichols Nick – @heynickadams See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

We officially made it to the final track of The Life of a Showgirl, and there was no better way to finish than with our Day One lobster, Grayson, joining us and sharing his thoughts on our final TLOASG track! We’re breaking down “The Life of a Showgirl” featuring Sabrina Carpenter and everything hiding behind the glitter, sequins and lovely bouquets. Why did Taylor Swift say that Sabrina was the perfect person for this song? Who is Kitty inspired by? There are some thoughts on who she could possibly be, and where the name came from! And is this the first time Taylor has talked about fame without sounding afraid of eventually being replaced? We also get into Taylor and Sabrina’s very different experiences with fame, the impossible expectations placed on women in entertainment, some Clara Bow and The Lucky One parallels, and the full circle Eras Tour moment hidden at the end of the song. And because Taylor Swift likes to tease her next album with the closing track, we have to ask what that ending could be telling us about whatever comes next. Plus we accidentally invent a new game called Condescending or Southern, which honestly may need to become a thing. It’s the final song breakdown, but we’re definitely not done with The Life of a Showgirl yet. What did we miss? What else would you like to hear from us? There’s tons of ways to reach us and we always like to hear from you! AND A BIG THANK YOU TO ALL OF OUR LOBSTER PRODUCERS AND OUR BIG TIME FRIEND IN STUDIO WITH US! WE LOVE AND APPRECIATE YOU ALWAYS, GRAYSON AND ALL OF OUR LOBSTERS! THIS EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY BETTERHELP Our listeners get 10% off their first month at http://BetterHelp.com/TAYLORSWIFTFAN. Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: station.page/13 Contact the Podcast Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 Email: the13podcast@gmail.com Instagram: @the13podcast TikTok: @the13podcast Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Follow the Hosts Ana – @anaszabo13 Lacey – @laceygee13 Amy – @amysnichols Nick – @heynickadams See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Taylor Swift has officially entered her favorite season... and you know what that means. The clown makeup is back on and Swifties are looking to one date… and it’s a very recognizable one! This week we're diving into all the biggest Swiftie theories taking over the internet. Is August setting us up for another surprise announcement? Are all the recent Taylor Nation posts actually connected? What do the color changes, Spotify canvases, Blank Space clues, and mysterious August references really mean? We also debate whether Taylor could be planning another tour, revisit the Debutation theories, wonder if TS13 might finally include wedding photos, and hear some incredible ideas from our listeners about future podcast episodes. As always, we don't claim to have all the answers... but we're definitely going to overanalyze every clue together. Grab your clown nose, your calendar and curiosity and let's investigate. What did we miss? What else would you like to hear from us? There’s tons of ways to reach us and we always like to hear from you! AND A BIG THANK YOU TO ALL OF OUR LOBSTER PRODUCERS AND OUR BIG TIME FRIEND IN STUDIO WITH US! WE LOVE AND APPRECIATE YOU ALWAYS, GRAYSON AND ALL OF OUR LOBSTERS! Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: station.page/13 Contact the Podcast Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 Email: the13podcast@gmail.com Instagram: @the13podcast TikTok: @the13podcast Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Follow the Hosts Ana – @anaszabo13 Lacey – @laceygee13 Amy – @amysnichols Nick – @heynickadams See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Taylor Swift somehow turned one little word into one of the sweetest songs on The Life of a Showgirl. This week we're breaking down Honey, talking about the lyrics that made us smile, the voice memo that gives us a peek into Taylor's songwriting process, and all the little details we almost missed. We get into why this song feels so healing, the surprising Grease connection, why "graffiti my whole damn life" might be one of the best lyrics on the album, and of course we somehow end up talking about pet names, bad dating stories, and the names we'd never want to be called. Plus we hear from listeners with some amazing episode ideas, a wedding story that accidentally became Taylor-coded, and one Swiftie from Scotland who absolutely made our day. Let us know...what's your favorite lyric from Honey? THIS EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY BETTERHELP Our listeners get 10% off their first month at http://BetterHelp.com/TAYLORSWIFTFAN. THIS EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY QUINCE Upgrade your everyday. Download the Quince app for app-exclusive offers, or go to https://quince.com/taylorswiftfan. Get free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. What did we miss? What else would you like to hear from us? There are lots of ways to reach us. Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: station.page/13 Contact the Podcast Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 Email: the13podcast@gmail.com Instagram: @the13podcast TikTok: @the13podcast Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Follow the Hosts Ana – @anaszabo13 Lacey – @laceygee13 Amy – @amysnichols Nick – @heynickadams See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Taylor Swift has been through more public backlash than almost any artist of her generation, yet somehow she always comes back stronger. This week we're breaking down "CANCELLED!" from The Life of a Showgirl and talking about every major moment people tried to cancel Taylor throughout her career. From the 2016 snake era to the Kanye phone call, the Reputation comeback, the masters battle, and even the recent Blake Lively headlines, we're connecting all the dots behind one of the album's most fascinating songs. We also dive into the lyrics that have Swifties convinced this song contains hidden references to Blake Lively, explore why Taylor has become the unofficial expert on surviving public judgment, and discuss the impossible standards women face in the spotlight. Whether you think this song is about Taylor, Blake, or something much bigger, we had so much fun unpacking every lyric and theory. Let us know what you think because we know Swifties always catch something we missed. What did we miss? What else would you like to hear from us? There are lots of ways to reach us. Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: station.page/13 Contact the Podcast Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 Email: the13podcast@gmail.com Instagram: @the13podcast TikTok: @the13podcast Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Follow the Hosts Ana – @anaszabo13 Lacey – @laceygee13 Amy – @amysnichols Nick – @heynickadams See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Taylor Swift is officially married... and Swifties, we have SO much to talk about. After waiting for the rumors to settle (and apologizing for doubting Madison Square Garden), we're breaking down every supposed detail from Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce's wedding that we know so far…. Here’s the TEA that we have gathered so far about the big day. We finally get to catch up and chat about everything we think we know so far, including why Taylor and Travis chose Madison Square Garden, the incredible celebrity guest list, surprise appearances, and who may have quietly reunited. We dive into Adam Sandler officiating the ceremony, the romantic "TNT" details woven throughout the wedding, the wedding prizes, Taylor's rumored Christian Dior wedding dress, and whether we'll ever see the official wedding photos. We also talk about reports that Taylor walked down the aisle to an instrumental version of "Love Story," the heartfelt vows, the sweet stories about Travis, the generous charitable donations they made ahead of their wedding, and all the little details that are making Swifties emotional. Whether you've been following Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce's love story since that first Chiefs game or you're catching the feels after the wedding, we are happy that you are joining our recap filled with LOVE. Also I’m kinda embarrassed to ask but did you see us ALL there? I’m looking at you, fellow lobsters. This is a paid advertisement from BetterHelp. Our listeners get 10% off their first month at http://BetterHelp.com/TAYLORSWIFTFAN. What’s been your favorite moment so far coming out of the T&T wedding? What did we miss? What else would you like to hear from us? There are lots of ways to reach us. Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: station.page/13 Contact the Podcast Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 Email: the13podcast@gmail.com Instagram: @the13podcast TikTok: @the13podcast Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Follow the Hosts Ana – @anaszabo13 Lacey – @laceygee13 Amy – @amysnichols Nick – @heynickadams See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week, we're putting our Taylor Swift knowledge to the ultimate test with TWO fan-inspired games that quickly spiral into complete mayhem. First, we attempt to identify Taylor songs from just a fraction of a second of audio. Will we recognize the classics or will panic completely erase years of Swiftie training? Then things get even more treacherous. Inspired by our lobster Krista from Alabama, we take on a blind ranking challenge featuring Taylor's legendary Track 6 "whiplash" songs—the upbeat, chaotic tracks that follow the emotional devastation of Track 5. Without knowing what's coming next, we have to rank songs like You Belong With Me, 22, Mirrorball, Midnight Rain, I Think He Knows, But Daddy I Love Him, Look What You Made Me Do, and more. The results? Questionable. The regrets? Immediate. Along the way, we hear sweet messages from listeners, debate whether Mirrorball deserves top-tier status, and expose which Taylor songs we're willing to defend with our lives. Which Track 6 will we put in the top spot? Featuring Taylor Swift trivia, Track 6 rankings, Swiftie debates, fan shout-outs, Easter eggs, The Tortured Poets Department, Midnights, Lover, 1989, Reputation, and plenty of laughs along the way. What did we miss? What else would you like to hear from us? There are lots of ways to reach us, and we love hearing from you! Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: station.page/13 Contact the Podcast Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 Email: the13podcast@gmail.com Instagram: @the13podcast TikTok: @the13podcast Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Follow the Hosts Ana – @anaszabo13 Lacey – @laceygee13 Amy – @amysnichols Nick – @heynickadams See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Taylor Swift is keeping BUSY.. and these last few weeks have been extra eventful. From a surprise performance during the Tight End University summit to a major career milestone that had even industry legends singing her praises, Taylor has been collecting headlines faster than we can keep up. We talk about it ALL.. the sporty debut of the Knicks girlies, all of the sweet moments from the Songwriters Hall of Fame and her surprise performance for the second year in a row at TEU.. Podcast roadtrip next year to either TEU or the TS13 tour?! Plus, we're diving into the latest wedding rumors, bachelor and bachelorette party speculation, and the clues that have fans convinced something HUGE is happening behind the scenes. Is Taylor quietly preparing for a new era? Is a certain re-record finally on the horizon? And then there’s the tour chatter… We also discuss: The emotional speech that left fans teary-eyed The surprise performances that has Taylor popping up unannounced New TS13 theories, tour predictions, and Easter eggs Grab your friendship bracelets and clown makeup, because we're connecting the dots on all the latest Taylor Swift news, theories, and surprises. Are we getting Debut (Taylor's Version)? TS13? A wedding? All three? There’s a lot to discuss. THIS EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY QUINCE Go to http://quince.com/taylorswiftfan for free shipping and 365-day returns. What did we miss? What else would you like to hear from us? There are lots of ways to reach us, and we love hearing from you! Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: station.page/13 Contact the Podcast Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 Email: the13podcast@gmail.com Instagram: @the13podcast TikTok: @the13podcast Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Follow the Hosts Ana – @anaszabo13 Lacey – @laceygee13 Amy – @amysnichols Nick – @heynickadams See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Taylor Swift really looked us in the eye and said, "Trust me, it's about superstitions." Giggle. This week on 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast, we're diving into one of the most talked-about, most double-entendre-filled, and somehow still radio-friendly track from The Life of a Showgirl album.. We are breaking down the song Wood. From daisy petals and lucky pennies to bouquet catches and suspiciously tall trees, we're unpacking every wink, nod, and eyebrow raise hidden in this clever song. We revisit some hilariously wrong pre-album predictions, react to the moment Swifties collectively realized what Taylor was actually singing about, and discuss why this track might be one of the funniest songs she's ever written. Plus, we explore surprising connections to Sabrina Carpenter, uncover a fan theory that really put the innocence of this song into perspective, and relive some unforgettable reactions from Swifties, podcasters, and even the Kelce family themselves. Is it a song about luck? Is it a song about love? Is it a song about... well... let's just say Taylor wasn't exactly subtle. Grab your friendship bracelets, clutch your pearls, and maybe don't listen to this episode around your grandma. This episode is all fun, no bad luck, and absolutely worth the deep-dive, accolades and some giggles. What did we miss? What are some of your takes from this track? What else would you like to hear from us? There are lots of ways to reach us, and we love hearing from you! This is a paid advertisement from BetterHelp. Our listeners get 10% off their first month at http://BetterHelp.com/TAYLORSWIFTFAN. Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: station.page/13 Contact the Podcast Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 Email: the13podcast@gmail.com Instagram: @the13podcast TikTok: @the13podcast Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Follow the Hosts Ana – @anaszabo13 Lacey – @laceygee13 Amy – @amysnichols Nick – @heynickadams See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Taylor Swift’s Wi$h Li$t is the sweetest song about not only achieving everything that she wants in life but wishing that for others as well. In this episode of 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast, we break down every lyric, meaning, and heartfelt moment from track 8 on The Life of a Showgirl. We discuss Taylor's Easter egging on the New Heights podcast, the awwww moment that she revealed to Zane Lowe, and her dream life with Travis Kelce while diving deep into the meaning behind one of the album's sweetest tracks. We discuss: What Taylor Swift herself said about Wi$h Li$t, while also Easter egging an upcoming project Taylor's dream and the true meaning of having a whole block looking like you Why fans believe this song fulfills the prophecy she’s been writing about for years The significance of the dollar signs in the title The deeper meaning behind luxury, fame, and finding what truly matters The answer to the question that Swifties have been asking, “What exactly was Taylor’s prayer?” that changed her Prophecy Plus, we explore the song’s themes of love, family, friendship, and building a life with the person who feels like both your best friend and your forever person. Is Wi$h Li$t Taylor Swift's happiest love song yet? Join us as we unpack every lyric, theory, and emotional detail from one of the most romantic tracks on The Life of a Showgirl. THIS EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY LIQUID I.V. Go to http://www.liquid-iv.com and get 20% off your first purchase with code TAYLORSWIFTFAN at checkout. What did we miss? What would you like to hear from us? There are lots of ways to reach us! Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: station.page/13 Contact the Podcast Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 Email: the13podcast@gmail.com Instagram: @the13podcast TikTok: @the13podcast Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Follow the Hosts Ana – @anaszabo13 Lacey – @laceygee13 Amy – @amysnichols Nick – @heynickadams See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week on 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast, we're diving into the rollout surrounding I Knew It, I Knew You and all the clues, theories, Easter eggs, and surprises that led up to its release. We’re talking mysterious billboards, changes to 1989 TV, the track 5 significance, and all of the clues from the TS collab. Could this release be connected to something even bigger? Why are fans revisiting old theories about Taylor's future projects? And what details have Swifties noticed in the song's imagery, promotion, and timing that have everyone talking? We also discuss Taylor’s return to her country roots, the nostalgic feelings sparked by the song, and why some listeners believe this moment could be an important piece of a much larger Taylor Swift puzzle. Plus, we're sharing fan reactions and theories, discussing some detailed headlines that claim to know some very intimate details, and exploring a few theories that may have you reaching for your clown makeup. Join us as we follow the clues, celebrate the new music, and ask the question every Swiftie is wondering: what happens next? This is a paid advertisement from BetterHelp. Our listeners get 10% off their first month at http://BetterHelp.com/TAYLORSWIFTFAN. What did we miss? What else would you like to hear from us? There are lots of ways to reach us, and we love hearing from you! Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: station.page/13 Contact the Podcast Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 Email: the13podcast@gmail.com Instagram: @the13podcast TikTok: @the13podcast Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Follow the Hosts Ana – @anaszabo13 Lacey – @laceygee13 Amy – @amysnichols Nick – @heynickadams See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

After weeks of clowning, theories, mysterious countdowns and enough cloud imagery to make us question reality, Taylor Swift finally revealed what was hiding behind the TS billboards popping up across the globe. But is a new Toy Story 5 song really the whole story? In this emergency episode of 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast, Ana and Lacey break down every clue from the viral TS billboard campaign, including: • The mysterious cloud countdown that appeared and vanished a month before the announcement • Why the 13 cloud billboards instantly sent Swifties into chaos • The Disney and TS collaboration and what exactly that means • The meaning behind the TS trademark, capitalized letters, and recurring "T" clues • Why 1989 (Taylor's Version) is looking a little different • The hidden significance of Track 5 playlists appearing across streaming platforms • Taylor's newly announced original song, "I Knew It, I Knew You" • Why the song's country roots could be pointing directly toward Debut (Taylor's Version) • The emotional connection between Toy Story, nostalgia, childhood, and Taylor owning her masters • Whether this rollout is secretly setting up something much bigger later this year We also discuss Taylor's upcoming Songwriters Hall of Fame induction, the 20th anniversary of Tim McGraw, the return of Jack Antonoff, and why some Swifties are convinced this is only Chapter One of a much larger Taylor Swift era. Were the clouds just clouds? Or was this Taylor's most elaborate Easter egg yet? Grab your friendship bracelets, put on your clown makeup, and join us as we decode every TS billboard, every countdown clue, and every breadcrumb leading toward what might be next. Because if Taylor Swift has taught us anything, it's this: Sometimes you just know. THIS EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY LIQUID I.V. Go to http://www.liquid-iv.com and get 20% off your first purchase with code TAYLORSWIFTFAN at checkout. What did we miss? What else would you like from us? There are lots of ways to reach us! Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: station.page/13 Contact the Podcast Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 Email: the13podcast@gmail.com Instagram: @the13podcast TikTok: @the13podcast Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Follow the Hosts Ana – @anaszabo13 Lacey – @laceygee13 Amy – @amysnichols Nick – @heynickadams See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Is Actually Romantic one of the most savage songs on Life of a Showgirl? In this episode of 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast, we break down every lyric, reference, and rumored feud packed into this diss track. We dive into the very intentional lines, the toy chihuahua comparison, and the ultimate diss moment when Taylor sings, “No man has ever loved me like you do.” We unpack the theories connecting the song to Charli XCX, the long history of rumored tension surrounding the Reputation Stadium Tour, “Sympathy Is a Knife,” Matty Healy connections, and the subtle ways Taylor may be flipping criticism into power. Plus, we talk about why this song feels so different from Taylor’s past feud songs like Blank Space, Look What You Made Me Do, Karma, and I Forgot That You Existed, and why it’s considered ‘rage bait’ in the best possible way. We also discuss: Taylor’s own explanation of the song The Weezer-style influence The misogynist reason why ‘Taylor Swift went too far’, and the male celebrity feuds that are acceptable How ‘Actually Romantic’ turns hate into obsession… and obsession into comedy If you love Taylor’s witty songwriting, layered easter eggs, and unapologetic confidence, this episode is for you. What do you think of this song? What did we miss? What else would you like to hear from us? All the ways to reach us are in the description of this podcast. This is a paid advertisement from BetterHelp. Our listeners get 10% off their first month at http://BetterHelp.com/TAYLORSWIFTFAN. Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: station.page/13 Contact the Podcast Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 Email: the13podcast@gmail.com Instagram: @the13podcast TikTok: @the13podcast Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Follow the Hosts Ana – @anaszabo13 Lacey – @laceygee13 Amy – @amysnichols Nick – @heynickadams See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Swifties, the clues and clouds and clowns are officially spiraling out of control. Taylor Swift has been SEEN lately and we know that is normally intentional! New York pap walks, London outings, wedding appearances, black-and-white fashion moments, silk dresses, gold jewelry, florals, opals…. and enough Easter eggs to send the fandom into full detective mode. In this episode of 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast, we break down the internet’s wildest TS13 theories and ask the question every Swiftie is screaming right now: What is Taylor trying to tell us? There are so many theories- the silk theory, the life and death of butterflies and showgirls, cocoons, debut symbolism, The Wizard of Oz, lyrical outfit references and the mysterious website countdown.. We unpack every clue surrounding Taylor’s current aesthetic shift. Is she teasing TS13? Debut for the 20 anniversary? A documentary? Or are we watching Taylor enter her bridal era in real time? We also dive into: Taylor and Travis Kelce’s latest wedding appearance The black-and-white-to-gold color transition Swifties are obsessing over Why fans think “The Life of a Showgirl” could connect directly to TS13 Theories involving clouds, dreamscapes, butterflies, and emerald city imagery Taylor’s opal earrings and the significance of the number 13 The Stephen Colbert Easter eggs resurfacing years later Spotify’s all-time Wrapped results and our most-streamed Taylor songs 1989 being inducted into the Library of Congress National Recording Registry Are the clouds important or just a red herring? Is this the bridal era or just a palette cleanse before we start seeing “screaming color”? And most importantly… Are we all about to get jump-scared by Taylor Nation again? Grab your friendship bracelets and clown makeup. There are lots of convincing theories to unpack and allllll of them are making a lot of sense right now! Plus, Nick’s daughter Ellie joins the show for the cutest mini Swiftie interview ever and she reveals what era she is currently in. What do you think is going on? What did we miss? And what else would you like to hear from us? There are lots of ways to reach us! This is a paid advertisement from BetterHelp. Our listeners get 10% off their first month at http://BetterHelp.com/TAYLORSWIFTFAN. Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: station.page/13 Contact the Podcast Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 Email: the13podcast@gmail.com Instagram: @the13podcast TikTok: @the13podcast Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Follow the Hosts Ana – @anaszabo13 Lacey – @laceygee13 Amy – @amysnichols Nick – @heynickadams See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This episode of 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast dives into one of the most emotional and daring tracks on The Life of a Showgirl — Ruin the Friendship. Lacey, Ana, and Amy unpack the nostalgic lyrics, the heartbreaking “what ifs,” and the real-life connection fans believe ties the song to Taylor’s late friend, Jeff Lang. This is a track 6 “whiplash” song that transforms from a dreamy high school crush story into a reflection on grief, regret, friendship, and missed chances. We discuss Taylor’s own explanation of the song, the meaning behind lines like “should have kissed you anyway,” and why this track feels so personal for anyone who has ever wondered how life would have turned out if they’d just taken the risk. We also take a look at Taylor Swift’s prom-happenings as well as some of our own! Plus, initial thoughts before hearing this track for the first time… (Did you think this was going to be a sort-of diss track?!) And we share a voicemail from a Crustacean Nation member overseas that named THIS podcast moment as their fav of all time! Where does this song rank for you in The Life of a Showgirl? What are some relatable moments in this song? This is a paid advertisement from BetterHelp. Our listeners get 10% off their first month at http://BetterHelp.com/TAYLORSWIFTFAN Don't forget to subscribe to 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast, and leave us a review! What did we miss? And what else would you like to hear from us? There are lots of ways to reach us! Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: station.page/13 Contact the Podcast Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 Email: the13podcast@gmail.com Instagram: @the13podcast TikTok: @the13podcast Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Follow the Hosts Ana – @anaszabo13 Lacey – @laceygee13 Amy – @amysnichols Nick – @heynickadams See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Being a Swiftie can be chaotic at times but that’s why we have SwifTEAs to keep it all straight… or get it all wrong. There’s a lot to cover in this episode, from Taylor Swift being named one of the greatest living songwriters in her New York Times feature to breaking down her actual songwriting process, we’re diving deep into all of the latest news and getting into some potential clownery. We discuss her love for structure, alliteration, and the iconic “rant bridge,” plus the influences behind her style and some possible future collabs. And Taylor Swift talking about her favorite song twists and the album that everyone slept on.. ICONIC! Speaking of iconic, Taylor’s 2018 contract decision is finally paying off in a massive way, and it’s set to benefit artists across the industry. We explain what happened, why it matters, and how she continues to shift the business side of music. We also get into her latest move to protect her voice and likeness from AI, why it’s happening now, and what it says about the future of music and media. And what’s up with the mysterious countdown on her website that suddenly disappeared and what all could that mean? We covered that too in an episode posted over the weekend. Check out our previous SwifTEA to hear what we got right and what has since aged poorly. What did we miss? What would you like to hear from us? There are lots of ways to reach us! This is a paid advertisement from BetterHelp. Our listeners get 10% off their first month at http://BetterHelp.com/TAYLORSWIFTFAN. THIS EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY QUINCE Go to http://quince.com/taylorswiftfan for free shipping and 365-day returns. Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: station.page/13 Contact the Podcast Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 Email: the13podcast@gmail.com Instagram: @the13podcast TikTok: @the13podcast Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Follow the Hosts Ana – @anaszabo13 Lacey – @laceygee13 Amy – @amysnichols Nick – @heynickadams See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

EMERGENCY EPISODE! Did you see the mysterious countdown that appeared and then quickly disappeared on Taylor Swift's website? What was that about? In today's emergency episode, Lacey, Amy, and Ana break down some theories and ideas about what could be happening in the world of Taylor Swift. Why did the clouds match Toy Story? Why did she wear a similar color scheme just a few days prior? Is there big news around the corner or are we just clowning once again? Take a listen, let me know what you think, and we'll find out soon if this episodes ages poorly! THIS EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY LIQUID IV Go to liquidiv.com and get 20% off your first purchase with code TAYLORSWIFTFAN at checkout! Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: ⁠⁠ station.page/13⁠⁠ Contact the Podcast Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 Email: ⁠⁠the13podcast@gmail.com⁠⁠ Instagram:⁠⁠ @the13podcast⁠⁠ TikTok:⁠⁠ @the13podcast⁠⁠ Twitter/X:⁠⁠ @the13TSpodcast⁠⁠ YouTube:⁠⁠ 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast⁠⁠ Follow the Hosts Ana –⁠⁠ @anaszabo13⁠⁠ Lacey –⁠⁠ @laceygee13⁠⁠ Amy –⁠⁠ @amysnichols⁠⁠ Nick –⁠⁠ @heynickadams See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

What does it really mean to be the “eldest daughter”, and why did Taylor Swift make it a track 5? In this episode, we break down “Eldest Daughter” line by line and uncover the deeper themes behind one of Taylor’s most layered and vulnerable songs. While hitting topics like internet culture and “cool girl” apathy to emotional vulnerability and relationship healing, this track hits harder the more you sit with it. We dig into: The meaning behind “terminal uniqueness” How social media performance culture shapes identity (and why Taylor calls it out) The emotional weight of being the “eldest daughter” and how that translates into adulthood Subtle connections to past songs like White Horse and evolving views on love and marriage The innocence vs. heartbreak contrast hidden in the second verse Why this track 5 isn’t about devastation—but growth, safety, and choosing the right person Plus, we talk about how this song reflects Taylor’s current era.. How she’s more grounded, more self-aware, and finally allowing herself to be fully seen. If you didn’t “get” this song at first listen… you will now. Tell us what you think of this song, and anything we might have missed! Also, what else would you like to hear from us? There are so many ways to reach us! THIS EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY LIQUID IV Go to liquidiv.com and get 20% off your first purchase with code TAYLORSWIFTFAN at checkout! Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: station.page/13 Contact the Podcast Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 Email: the13podcast@gmail.com Instagram: @the13podcast TikTok: @the13podcast Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Follow the Hosts Ana – @anaszabo13 Lacey – @laceygee13 Amy – @amysnichols Nick – @heynickadams Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Taylor Swift just gave us one of her boldest tracks yet, and we’re breaking down every layered lyric, shocking moment, and hidden meaning in “Father Figure.” From the jaw-dropping first listen to the deeper themes of power, control, and betrayal, we unpack how this track connects to Taylor’s real-life masters battle, her fight for ownership, and the industry dynamics she’s been calling out for years. We dive into the George Michael interpolation, the symbolism behind “brown liquor,” and why this song feels like a cinematic mafia story meets music industry revenge. Plus, we explore Taylor’s surprising inspiration from Succession, the dual perspectives between mentor and protégé, and the chilling moment where the power dynamic flips. Who is the “father figure” really about—and when does Taylor take control? In this episode, we cover: The meaning behind the lyric change in the explicit and clean version Taylor’s smartest lyrical metaphors and industry commentary The real-life parallels to Scott Borchetta and her masters fight The moment the protégé becomes the power player This is Taylor Swift at her sharpest, boldest, and most unapologetic—and we’re unpacking it all. This is a paid advertisement from BetterHelp. Our listeners get 10% off their first month at http://BetterHelp.com/TAYLORSWIFTFAN. Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: station.page/13 Contact the Podcast Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 Email: the13podcast@gmail.com Instagram: @the13podcast TikTok: @the13podcast Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Follow the Hosts Ana – @anaszabo13 Lacey – @laceygee13 Amy – @amysnichols Nick – @heynickadams Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Swiftie influencer Olivia Levin ( @SwiftiesforEternity) joins us to share her journey from lifelong fan to published author of The Story of Us—a love letter to the Taylor Swift fandom. Olivia reveals how Taylor Swift shaped her life, career, and identity, from discovering her music at a young age to attending Secret Sessions and experiencing The Eras Tour firsthand. She shares behind-the-scenes stories, emotional fan moments, and what it means to grow up alongside Taylor in one of the most powerful fandoms in the world. We dive into: Meeting Taylor Swift and what that moment was really like The impact of The Eras Tour on fans and Olivia’s life How she turned Swiftie passion into a full-time career Writing The Story of Us and capturing fandom history The evolution of the Swiftie community from Tumblr to today Favorite albums, music videos, and Taylor Swift eras What’s next for Taylor Swift (Taylor’s Version, TS13, and beyond) This episode is for every Swiftie who has ever felt seen, understood, and transformed by Taylor’s music… and isn’t that all of us? 🎧 Don’t forget to follow, rate, and share with your fellow Swifties. 💌 Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: 👉 station.page/13 📲 Contact the Podcast 🎤 Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 📧 Email: the13podcast@gmail.com 📸 Instagram: @the13podcast 🎶 TikTok: @the13podcast 🐦 Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast ▶️ YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast 👯 Follow the Hosts ✨ Ana – @anaszabo13 ✨ Lacey – @laceygee13 ✨ Amy – @amysnichols ✨ Nick – @heynickadams Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

If a Taylor Swift biopic hit theaters tomorrow… who has to play her? This week, we’re building the ultimate Swiftie dream cast—from Taylor herself to her inner circle, iconic exes, and the villains that shaped her story. We debate powerhouse picks like Margot Robbie vs. Anya Taylor-Joy, the must-have A-list parents, doppelganger supporting actors, villains and a crazy casting of some famous friends! Who should get the role of Selena Gomez? Sabrina Carpenter? Who would portray a great Travis Kelce? We’re talking Eras, reputation, heartbreak, reinvention—and who could actually pull it off on screen. Plus, a very bold take… Will one member of the 13 Podcast have bragging rights for life and be able to say, “I told ya so!”? This is a paid advertisement from BetterHelp. Our listeners get 10% off their first month at http://BetterHelp.com/TAYLORSWIFTFAN. Join the conversation: Who’s YOUR perfect Taylor? And which casting choice would totally ruin the movie? What did we miss? What else would you like to hear from us? There are lots of ways to reach us! Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: station.page/13 Contact the Podcast Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 Email: the13podcast@gmail.com Instagram: @the13podcast TikTok: @the13podcast Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Follow the Hosts Ana – @anaszabo13 Lacey – @laceygee13 Amy – @amysnichols Nick – @heynickadams Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Swifties, this music video is packed with nostalgia, metaphors, and lots of theories! We’re diving deep into Taylor Swift’s Opalite music video—breaking down every theory, Easter egg, and hidden message you need to know. From the 90s aesthetic to the symbolic relationships (rock vs. cactus ), we explore how Taylor uses humor and nostalgia to tell a much deeper story about toxic love, self-blame, and finding the right person. In this episode, we discuss: The Opalite meaning + “man-made happiness” concept Travis Kelce connections (including the 8/26 theory) Callbacks to Anti-Hero, You’re Losing Me, and many other songs The red string theory vs. invisible string parallels Hidden clues pointing to future projects Nothing in this video is random—and we’re connecting all the dots. What did we miss? What else would you like to hear from us? There are lots of ways to reach us! Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: station.page/13 Contact the Podcast Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 Email: the13podcast@gmail.com Instagram: @the13podcast TikTok: @the13podcast Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Follow the Hosts Ana – @anaszabo13 Lacey – @laceygee13 Amy – @amysnichols Nick – @heynickadams Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Taylor Swift’s “Opalite” might be one of her happiest, most revealing songs yet—and we’re breaking down every lyric, Easter egg, and hidden meaning. In this episode, we dive into the full Opalite song analysis, including the emotional message behind Taylor’s lyrics, the symbolism of opalite vs. opal, and how this track reflects her current era of love, growth, and self-forgiveness. We also explore: The real meaning behind “making your own sunshine” Subtle references to Taylor’s past relationships and healing journey The Travis Kelce connection and why fans think this is her most personal love song yet How this track compares to albums like The Tortured Poets Department and what it says about her current mindset Plus, we react to Taylor’s recent appearances, fan theories, and what could be coming next. This is a paid advertisement from BetterHelp. Our listeners get 10% off their first month at http://BetterHelp.com/TAYLORSWIFTFAN. What’s your favorite Opalite lyric? How does it rank in your TLOASG rankings? We’d love to hear from you! There are lots of ways to reach us! Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: station.page/13 Contact the Podcast Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 Email: the13podcast@gmail.com Instagram: @the13podcast TikTok: @the13podcast Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Follow the Hosts Ana – @anaszabo13 Lacey – @laceygee13 Amy – @amysnichols Nick – @heynickadams Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

What are the most underrated Taylor Swift songs in her entire discography? In this episode of 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast, Ana and Nick dive album-by-album to pick the most overlooked song from every Taylor Swift era — from debut through The Life of a Showgirl. Using a mix of Spotify streaming data, Swiftie intuition, and personal favorites, they debate which songs deserve way more love from fans and the general public. Along the way, they discuss the beautiful gems like Stay Beautiful, The Best Day, Haunted, Holy Ground, This Love, Dancing With Our Hands Tied, I Think He Knows, Peace, Cowboy Like Me, Question…?, Dear Reader, and more. Some picks come from pure vibes, while others are backed by hard streaming numbers — and a few results are honestly shocking. They also explore: Why some Taylor Swift tracks become fan favorites years later Songs that Swifties love but the casual listener may have missed The storytelling brilliance behind underrated tracks like Peace and Cowboy Like Me Whether streaming numbers actually reflect what fans truly love And why The Tortured Poets Department might have more hidden gems than any album yet Plus: thoughts on potential Debut (Taylor’s Version) timing, why reputation ages like fine wine, and the surprisingly stacked lineup of Taylor’s track twos. Whether you’re a longtime Swiftie or just exploring Taylor Swift’s catalog, this episode will definitely send you back to the playlists to rediscover some incredible songs you may have overlooked. So pause the episode, make your own list, and let us know: What’s the most underrated Taylor Swift song on each album? Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: station.page/13 Contact the Podcast Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 Email: the13podcast@gmail.com Instagram: @the13podcast TikTok: @the13podcast Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Follow the Hosts Ana – @anaszabo13 Lacey – @laceygee13 Amy – @amysnichols Nick – @heynickadams Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Swifties know that track 2 on a Taylor Swift album is never random. In this episode of 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast, Lacey, Ana, and Amy take on the impossible challenge of ranking every Track 2 from Taylor Swift’s discography. From early fan-favorite “Picture to Burn” to iconic bopz like “Blank Space,” “Cruel Summer,” and “Cardigan,” the lineup is stacked with some of Taylor’s most unforgettable songs. The conversation quickly turns a little judgemental as the hosts debate lyricism, nostalgia, Eras Tour moments, storytelling, and production while trying to decide which track deserves the top spot. Along the way, the 13 Podcast dives into: • Why Track 2 placements are intentional in Taylor’s albums• The surprising connections between songs like “Red” and “Maroon”• How The Eras Tour changed the way fans experience songs like Cruel Summer and champagne problems• Which songs spark the most Swiftie nostalgia from Taylor’s early eras With songs from every era — Debut, Fearless, Speak Now, Red, 1989, Reputation, Lover, folklore, evermore, Midnights, The Tortured Poets Department, and The Life of a Showgirl — the hosts attempt to settle one of the biggest Swiftie debates. Listen in and tell us: Which Taylor Swift Track 2 would YOU rank #1? Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: station.page/13 Contact the Podcast Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 Email: the13podcast@gmail.com Instagram: @the13podcast TikTok: @the13podcast Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Follow the Hosts Ana – @anaszabo13 Lacey – @laceygee13 Amy – @amysnichols Nick – @heynickadams Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this episode of 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast, we break down “Elizabeth Taylor” from The Life of a Showgirl and uncover the real Hollywood legend who inspired it. Who was Elizabeth Taylor — and why does Taylor Swift see herself in her story? We explore Elizabeth Taylor’s rise as the infamous star of classic Hollywood, her record-breaking negotiation skills, how she fought back against studio control.. You can already see the similarities to Taylor Swift’s life! We dive into her infamous love story with Richard Burton — the passion, the divorces, the remarriage, and the love letters so intense they still feel cinematic decades later. What does it mean when Taylor sings, “If your letters ever said goodbye”? The real-life context will wreck you. We also unpack: The significance of Portofino and the Plaza Athénée The legacy of White Diamonds and the symbolism behind “forever” Elizabeth’s violet eyes and other interpretations of “I’d cry my eyes violet” The parallels between tabloid scrutiny in 1960s Hollywood and modern pop superstardom Why Taylor Swift called Elizabeth Taylor her ultimate icon on The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon At its core, this episode asks a bigger question: What does it cost to be a woman at the top of your industry? Elizabeth Taylor lived it first. Taylor Swift is living it now. This is a deep dive into fame, romance, resilience, diamonds, scandal, reinvention — and what it really means to be a showgirl. If you love Taylor Swift analysis, pop culture history, Hollywood legends, and thoughtful lyric breakdowns, this episode is for you. Elizabeth Taylor. Do you think it’s forever? This is a paid advertisement from BetterHelp. Our listeners get 10% off their first month at http://BetterHelp.com/TAYLORSWIFTFAN. Thank you for listening and loving Taylor with us! Chime in anytime to share your thoughts.. There are lots of ways to reach us! Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: station.page/13 Contact the Podcast Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 Email: the13podcast@gmail.com Instagram: @the13podcast TikTok: @the13podcast Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Follow the Hosts Ana – @anaszabo13 Lacey – @laceygee13 Amy – @amysnichols Nick – @heynickadams Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this episode of 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast, we break down the details, Easter eggs, history, and symbolism in “The Fate of Ophelia” music video from The Life of a Showgirl album! We dive into the one-take cinematography, the return of the Eras Tour dancers, and the many different kinds and looks of showgirls. We also discuss the nods to Travis Kelce and this specific moment in history, the orange songbird symbolism, and the deeper meaning behind some of the imagery. Plus, how does this video set the tone for the entire album? And which TLOASG track do we think deserves the next music video? If you’re also in your Showgirl era or just into all things Taylor Swift, this episode (and entire podcast!) is especially for you! Thank you for listening and loving Taylor with us! Chime in anytime to share your thoughts.. There are lots of ways to reach us! This podcast is sponsored by Liquid I.V. Go to http://liquidiv.com and get 20% off your first order with code TAYLORSWIFTFAN at checkout. Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: station.page/13 Contact the Podcast Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 Email: the13podcast@gmail.com Instagram: @the13podcast TikTok: @the13podcast Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Follow the Hosts Ana – @anaszabo13 Lacey – @laceygee13 Amy – @amysnichols Nick – @heynickadams Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

We’re diving into “The Fate of Ophelia,” the powerful opening track from The Life of a Showgirl — and there is so much to unpack. In this episode of 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast, we break down the lyrics, literary references, and hidden layers that make this one of Taylor Swift’s strongest album openers yet. This song is layered, intentional, and a twist on a classic story. We discuss: The Shakespeare and Hamlet references woven into the lyrics The music theory detail that mirrors Shakespeare’s structure How this track connects to The Tortured Poets Department The double narrative theory: the Travis Kelce love story or masters reclamation? The Ophelia painting vs. the album imagery Records broken by “Fate of Ophelia” on the charts Is this Taylor’s most sophisticated pop opener yet? Did she rewrite Ophelia’s tragic ending into a modern love story? And what do you think this song is about? We’re breaking it all down — line by line! What did we miss? What opening album track is your fav? There are lots of ways to reach us! This is a paid advertisement from BetterHelp. Our listeners get 10% off their first month at http://BetterHelp.com/TAYLORSWIFTFAN. Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: station.page/13 Contact the Podcast Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 Email: the13podcast@gmail.com Instagram: @the13podcast TikTok: @the13podcast Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Follow the Hosts Ana – @anaszabo13 Lacey – @laceygee13 Amy – @amysnichols Nick – @heynickadams Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

It's a full-on SwifTEA catch-up with Ana, Lacey, and Amy as Taylor Swift drops the Opalite music video—and the Swiftie world goes into instant investigation mode. We break down first reactions, hidden metaphors, the potential mall comeback, rock vs. cactus discourse, and the Easter eggs fans are already clocking. We also discuss other Taylor Swift news, including Grammy after-party sightings, Jack Antonoff rumors, the Travis Kelce confession, the celebrity beef no one saw coming, and why fans are once again spiraling over what Taylor might be teasing next. It’s a classic SwifTEA episode—part deep dive, part Swiftie group chat—as we catch up, connect the dots, and spiral just enough. With even more Opalite theories already forming and bigger conversations ahead, consider this the warm-up before the real breakdowns begin. Grab your tea, keep the volume up, and we’ll see you in the next episode. Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: station.page/13 Contact the Podcast Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 Email: the13podcast@gmail.com Instagram: @the13podcast TikTok: @the13podcast Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Follow the Hosts Ana – @anaszabo13 Lacey – @laceygee13 Amy – @amysnichols Nick – @heynickadams Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week on 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast, we’re doing something a little different. Due to a winter storm hitting Texas and throwing off recording schedules, Ana hops on the mic for a special solo Swiftie Q&A episode—and it ended up feeling like a warm, one-on-one check-in with the community. After opening up questions on Instagram, Ana answers everything from which Taylor Swift album she’d relive for the first time, to top five albums right now, to which songs she skips (yes, it depends on the mood). She reflects on the magic of hearing Midnights for the first time, revisits beloved eras like Red, Speak Now, and 1989, and shares why The Tortured Poets Department continues to hit differently now that we’re stepping into the Showgirl era. Ana also dives into: What newer Swifties may have missed pre-folklore Dream Taylor Swift music videos that never happened Songs she’d love to break down again Favorite non-Taylor artists she’s listening to right now Whether live events are coming back (Swifties in the City fans, take note!) This solo bonus is equal parts Swiftie nostalgia, thoughtful reflection, and emotional connection, and it sets the stage perfectly for what’s coming next as 13 begins its deep dive into The Life of a Showgirl, starting with Fate of Ophelia. Grab your cardigans, get cozy, and hang out with us—because even when plans change, the Swiftie community always shows up. Stay warm, take care of yourselves, and we’ll see you next week. This is a paid advertisement from BetterHelp. Our listeners get 10% off their first month at http://BetterHelp.com/TAYLORSWIFTFAN. Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: station.page/13 Contact the Podcast Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 Email: the13podcast@gmail.com Instagram: @the13podcast TikTok: @the13podcast Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Follow the Hosts Ana – @anaszabo13 Lacey – @laceygee13 Amy – @amysnichols Nick – @heynickadams Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

It’s been a 13 podcast tradition throughout the years.. What do we swiftly predict for this upcoming year for our girl Taylor Swift? Here are our bold predictions for this year.. What do you think she has in store for this year? THIS EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY LIQUID IV Go to https://www.liquid-iv.com and get 20% off your first order with code TAYLORSWIFTFAN at checkout. Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: station.page/13 Contact the Podcast Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 Email: the13podcast@gmail.com Instagram: @the13podcast TikTok: @the13podcast Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Follow the Hosts Ana – @anaszabo13 Lacey – @laceygee13 Amy – @amysnichols Nick – @heynickadams Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Before we rank the songs. Before we dissect lyrics. Before we take a peek behind the curtain… We’re starting where Taylor Swift wanted us to start: the prologue. In this episode of 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast, we gather around the opening poetry of The Life of a Showgirl—the interconnected prologues released across the album’s five variants—and discuss the meaning behind them. These poems aren’t just bonus content. They’re a thesis statement. A behind-the-curtain look at what it means to live, love, perform, endure, and choose this life again and again. We break down each prologue piece by piece, the imagery, the metaphors, and the emotional weight behind lines that pull back the glitter to reveal the cost of show business. This episode unpacks how Taylor frames the entire album before a single song even plays. We discuss:• How the five variant poems form one cohesive story• The physical, emotional, and psychological toll of life onstage• The crowd as comfort and threat• The quiet joy and grounding love woven into the chaos• What these poems tell us about where Taylor was—and who she is now This episode is intentionally the foundation for everything to come. It’s the lens through which the rest of The Life of a Showgirl should be heard. If you’ve ever skipped the prologue, this is your sign not to. And if you’ve read it before, trust us—you haven’t heard it like this. Pull up a chair.Read between the lines.The curtain is officially up. The Life of a Showgirl era begins here. This is a paid advertisement from BetterHelp. Our listeners get 10% off their first month at http://BetterHelp.com/TAYLORSWIFTFAN. Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: station.page/13 Contact the Podcast Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 Email: the13podcast@gmail.com Instagram: @the13podcast TikTok: @the13podcast Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Follow the Hosts Ana – @anaszabo13 Lacey – @laceygee13 Amy – @amysnichols Nick – @heynickadams Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

It’s time for the 13 Podcast to officially enter into The Life of a Showgirl era! Before we deep-dive into lyrics, theories, Easter eggs, and emotional devastation, we’re doing what we always do first: initial song rankings. In this kickoff episode for The Life of a Showgirl, we’re sharing our initial song rankings—the raw, unfiltered reactions that come after listening to a new Taylor Swift album on repeat and trusting your gut in this moment, because our rankings constantly change. We break down where each track landed right now, what surprised us most on first listen, which songs instantly felt like standouts, and which ones we know are quietly waiting to grow into obsessions. Some rankings were obvious. Others shocked even us. And yes—this is the episode we’ll absolutely look back on later and say, “How did we ever rank it THAT low?” This episode sets the foundation for everything to come this album cycle:• how the album feels as a complete body of work• early favorites vs. slow burns• production moments that grabbed us immediately• emotional highs, unexpected turns, and first-impression hot takes• predictions for which songs will age into fan favorites If you’re listening along and ranking the album yourself, this episode is your invitation to pause, reflect, and compare notes—because initial rankings are a time capsule. They capture who you are, where you are, and how the music meets you in that exact moment. Whether you agree with us completely or are already yelling at your speaker, this is where the Showgirl era officially begins. Hit play, lock in your rankings, and get ready—we’re just getting started. THIS EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY LIQUID IV Go to https://www.liquidiv.com and get 20% off your first order with code TAYLORSWIFTFAN at checkout. Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: station.page/13 Contact the Podcast Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 Email: the13podcast@gmail.com Instagram: @the13podcast TikTok: @the13podcast Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Follow the Hosts Ana – @anaszabo13 Lacey – @laceygee13 Amy – @amysnichols Nick – @heynickadams Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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What happens when Swiftie dreams collide with the NFL spotlight? In this episode of 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast, Ana shares the surreal, whirlwind experience of attending a Kansas City Chiefs game with seats directly in front of Travis Kelce’s suite—and yes, Taylor Swift was there. From a last-minute invite from a listener to flying in for less than 24 hours, Ana breaks down the full timeline of how this bucket-list moment came together. The hosts dive into the now-iconic crossover of Swifties and Chiefs Kingdom, what it’s like to experience Arrowhead Stadium for the first time, and the undeniable energy shift when Taylor arrives. You’ll hear: What it’s really like sitting just feet away from Taylor Swift at an NFL game How Chiefs fans, stadium security, and the Kelce family handled the chaos A candid look at fame, privacy, and why respecting Taylor’s space matters Emotional reflections on Taylor’s lyrics about peace, visibility, and public life Tailgating in Kansas City, fan reactions (good and bad), and a once-in-a-lifetime souvenir from Papa Swift This episode offers a rare, human perspective on celebrity culture, fandom, and what it means to witness Taylor Swift simply trying to enjoy a football game while the world watches. Whether you’re a lifelong Swiftie, a new Chiefs fan, or fascinated by the Taylor-Travis era, this conversation is heartfelt, eye-opening, and unforgettable. Subscribe, leave a review, and join us as we close out the year with stories only Swifties could tell. 💌 Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: 👉 station.page/13 📲 Contact the Podcast 🎤 Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 📧 Email: the13podcast@gmail.com 📸 Instagram: @the13podcast 🎶 TikTok: @the13podcast 🐦 Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast ▶️ YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast 👯 Follow the Hosts ✨ Ana – @anaszabo13 ✨ Lacey – @laceygee13 ✨ Amy – @amysnichols ✨ Nick – @heynickadams Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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It’s Taylor Swift’s birthday, and somehow she’s the one giving us gifts. In this episode of 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast, we dive headfirst into the first two episodes of Taylor’s Eras Tour documentary and her revealing, hilarious, and emotionally loaded appearance on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert. We unpack everything: the overwhelming emotion behind the Eras Tour, the responsibility Taylor carries as a global icon, the heartbreak and resilience surrounding Vienna, and the quiet moments that show who she really is when the spotlight dims. From backstage tears to bonus-day generosity, from Mirrorball validation to the power of audiobooks as emotional armor — nothing is off limits. Plus, we talk reputation rumors, surprise lyric changes, Swiftie clownery, Travis Kelce crumbs, dancer spotlights, and why Taylor’s confidence still makes people uncomfortable (and why it absolutely shouldn’t). This episode is joyful, heavy, validating, chaotic, and deeply human — just like Taylor herself.Happy birthday, Taylor. Thanks for once again reminding us why we picked the right one. Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: station.page/13 Contact the Podcast Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 Email: the13podcast@gmail.com Instagram: @the13podcast TikTok: @the13podcast Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Follow the Hosts Ana – @anaszabo13 Lacey – @laceygee13 Amy – @amysnichols Nick – @heynickadams Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Taylor Swift is officially nominated for the Songwriters Hall of Fame, and our own panel of Swifties are celebrating the only way we know how — by turning it into a competitive draft. But there’s a catch... We cannot pick any of the five songs Taylor submitted herself. In this episode of 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast, Nick, Ana, Amy, and Lacey each take turns drafting their personal five-song lineup that they believe best represents Taylor’s songwriting mastery — from lyrical gut-punches to iconic storytelling to pop perfection. And once someone chooses a song, it’s off the table forever. Yes… feelings are hurt. Strategies crumble, and the TTPD gloves come off! Hear our passionate defenses, surprising picks, heated moments over a fan fav snack size song, and even a little friendly chaos over drafting order. We cover everything from classics like Our Song and You Belong With Me to deep-cut heartbreakers, folklore masterpieces, and songs that showcase her evolution from teenage prodigy to generational songwriter. We also ask: Which songs should represent Taylor’s entire 20-year career? Which of her lyrics hit hardest for Songwriters Hall of Fame voters? And why didn’t any of us pick something from a particular album… yet? Stick around to hear everyone’s final five-song sets — and tell us yours! Subscribe, share your picks with us, and let’s manifest Taylor becoming the youngest inductee ever. Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge: station.page/13 Contact the Podcast Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 Email: the13podcast@gmail.com Instagram: @the13podcast TikTok: @the13podcast Twitter/X: @the13TSpodcast YouTube: 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Follow the Hosts Ana – @anaszabo13 Lacey – @laceygee13 Amy – @amysnichols Nick – @heynickadams Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Tune in this Sunday for the Chiefs game to see Taylor Swift.... AND ANA!!! In a crazy, spontaneous, marvelous situation, Ana has found an opportunity to go to Arrowhead Stadium and join Chiefs Kingdom with a fellow Swiftie! Hear all about how it's happened, what her plans are, and help her come up with a sign or prepare on the possibility of seeing Taylor! PLUS, our very own producer, Juliana, is in town and joins the podcast to give us some updates about her life, her fangirl career, and more!! Stay Connected with 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast Join the conversation in our exclusive Lobster Lounge:⁠ station.page/13⁠ Contact the Podcast Voicemail: (689) 214-1313 Email: ⁠the13podcast@gmail.com⁠ Instagram:⁠ @the13podcast⁠ TikTok:⁠ @the13podcast⁠ Twitter/X:⁠ @the13TSpodcast⁠ YouTube:⁠ 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast⁠ Follow the Hosts Ana –⁠ @anaszabo13⁠ Lacey –⁠ @laceygee13⁠ Amy –⁠ @amysnichols⁠ Nick –⁠ @heynickadams⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.